Is marriage overrated? (By SuperSaiyanGod2 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper StarDiamondBronze Crown 3 months ago)

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    3 months ago
    ico
    guest from Saskatchewan, Canada
    I would love too love
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    3 months ago
    ico +2
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    I think a lot of people don't understand what it entails but I wouldn't call it overrated.
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    3 months ago
    ico +2
    Yes it is overrated, no you don't need it. Yes it's a tradition, yes you can do it if you're attached to traditions. No it is not dumb, yes you can f*ck off.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    I don’t think I ever used the word, “dumb”, when posting this question so..
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    3 months ago
    ico
    I wasn't talking to you specifically dude, just to the people thinking it is dumb in general
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Just seems that way because of the insane divorce rate in some places
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Pretty much what musta said
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    3 months ago
    ico +4
    Marriage is a way to lock a man into losing money and getting cheated.
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    3 months ago
    ico +2
    yes because that's the goals of every woman
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    3 months ago
    ico +4
    What I find stupid is when people spend too much money on the wedding instead of saving more money for their future
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Same
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    3 months ago
    ico +5
    Yes and no. Some people get married just for the benefits lel
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    3 months ago
    ico +5
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    The legal documentation is, but what the paper stands for is what makes it more meaningful than just dating someone. People who say the very idea marriage is overrated are severely afraid of commitment.
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    I disagree. Because I think if you need a peace of paper to show your commitment you shouldn’t even be married in the first place resulting of vast majority of marriages ending in divorce within a few years anyways. He only benefit I see is maybe tax.
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    3 months ago
    ico +2
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    The piece of paper is what is overrated. What I think marriage should be is just what it was meant to be, a step above just dating someone. That it should be symbolized by the ring, not the marriage license. Engagement should be gotten rid of.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Marriage isn’t anything but a title that’s it. There’s no really step above dating someone. Ring or not and certificate or not you’re still in a relationship with that person.
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    3 months ago
    ico +2
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    Think of it this way, it's like the difference between your regular friends and your BEST friend. Honestly I think that the engagement should be what replaces the wedding ceremony. I'm all in favor of a reception though. There needs to be something that separates dating them for a while and a mutual agreement that they want to be together for life.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Yeah but I don’t need a piece of paper or a ring to distinguish between my best and regular friends
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    3 months ago
    ico +2
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    But this is different than regular friendship.
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    There's no reason arguing with this guy. I've been doing that for 2 years, he's hard headed af. Better off not wasting your time tbh
  • image
    3 months ago
    ico
    No it’s because I’m logical and you’re not that’s why you fail.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    This. Is. The. Most. Pretentious. Thing. I. Have. Ever. Read.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Wow you can read? I’m shocked.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Yes sir. I don't know why it surprises you. I would not be able to use this website if I had no idea how to read or write.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    What? So just because there’s a certificate or ring to say you’re “official” really change anything? You can still get cheated on or break up just like any other relationship. My point is the whole marriage title is completely unnecessary. You’re analogy between best friends and regular friends is completely flawed
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    There needs to be more than just a verbal agreement to differentiate between someone who you MIGHT want to spend the rest of your life with and someone who you DEFINITELY want to spend of your life with. The element of commitment is what make the difference a different kind of difference than the two levels of regular friendship. With that you just like one more than the other. Without some form of proof beyond what a couple says verbally that they are committed, there's literally nothing to prove that there is any cheating going on since there's no proof of commitment to be cheated. With regular friends, you don't need that extra proof.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    And it doesn’t matter if there’s “proof” of cheating or not. Cheating on each other isn’t a crime that the fbi or law enforcement could care less to investigate lol
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    3 months ago
    ico +2
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    What it really sounds like you're saying is that commitment itself is pointless because there is nothing stopping people in a committed relationship from cheating so why bother with an extra piece of paper on something that's doomed to fail anyway.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    He's a pretentious cuck. Don't waste your time. He just made me die inside with what he responded to me with lmao
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    3 months ago
    ico
    And as for you I said what I said because instead of giving any solid ground to back up your positioning. You resort to name calling and ad hominem attacks on me which only makes you look worse. This has absolutely nothing to do with you. So unless you have a decent counter argument. Piss off will ya?
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Lmao
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    3 months ago
    ico
    MindlessPie back at it again with the controversy lmao
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    3 months ago
    ico
    More like stupidity
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    I’m not saying commitment is pointless you’re attacking a straw man there. I’m saying a piece of paper plus thousands of dollars for a wedding doesn’t resemble commitment. Actually being committed to each other does. A verbal agreement and a written agreement either one doesn’t protect you from things not workin our moving further. What I think is pointless is the piece of paper to show their commitment. Because look at the divorce rates. I mean if I’m with someone and it’s all going good. Why bother spending the extra time and money on some stupid marriage ceremony? Okay we have the title husband and wife? Okay so what? Husbands don’t cheat on their wives and vice verse? I do t get it. It just seems pointless to me.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    The problem lies not with the documents that legally confirm it/a ring for another form of proof of commitment. The problem is that it's so desirable and glorified by society that people are too eager to get married because of societal pressure to do so. Honestly, dating is the most important part of the whole thing because you get to test compatibility before you commit. Not enough value is placed on that instead of the end result. Hence why it's overrated.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    So now you basically agreed with me. xD
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    3 months ago
    ico
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    Not really, I still think people rush into it too fast but I don't think the concept of marriage is overrated. I just think that the system that defines what marriage is happens to be flawed.
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    The concept of marriage comes from a religious origin. So in that sense no. But it’s extremely overrated in the societal perspective in which we portray that everyone is destined to find someone, marry then an live happily ever after from THAT perspective I say it’s overrated and statistics back me up on that.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    You're just salty cause you're never gonna find a woman who actually loves and cares for you
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Again another ad hominem attack rather than any argument based on any facts, reason or logic. Proves my point.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    lmao alright dude. whatever you say
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    3 months ago
    ico
    And I don’t need a marriage certificate to find a woman who loves and cares for me. Just saying.
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    Marriage adds extra security to relationships. Specifically those looking to start a family which usually requires one of them giving up their livelihood to become a stay at home parent, and from that comes the legal aspects of marriage. If you're both committed their shouldn't be a problem. (You and MustaKrakish are both retarded)
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    3 months ago
    ico
    I’m not saying it’s %100 pointless. But I do think it’s extremely overrated. Like I said earlier the only purpose I see in marriage is the legal benefits, (as in tax or mortgage hinge like that), but from a relationship or romance point of view it really seems pointless to me.
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    Put two and two together, the added legal security translates to value in a relationship point of view. You can't put 100% into a relationship if there's no protection for your personal future, just go back to my stay-at-home parent example. The purpose of marraige isn't to 'prove your love' but it's like you saw the strawman in 'A' and based your entire argument of it.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Well I was never arguing that marriage is completely useless I even mentioned earlier I think it’s only good is for maybe the certain tax benefits and such. I was arguing from a societal point of view the way we portray marriage is extremely overrated. It’s taugt that everyone is supposed to get married and live happily ever after and we know from so money statistics and examples that’s usually not the case. The purpose of marriage originally was to “show your love” and commitment to your spouse but in this day in age it’s a little different. I mean for example look at the Clinton’s? They’re still married but do you really think they they still have an intimate relationship with one another. I doubt it.
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    You've argued against the value a "peace of paper" has on a relationship multiple times and that's what I specifically countered in my comments. Also you literally said "My point is the whole marriage title is completely unnecessary" but now you’re trying to backtrack (I’m ignoring 90% of your comment because it’s painfully irrelevant to this discussion)
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Marriage in itself IS JUST OF PIECE OF PAPER. Whether you have it or not doesn’t have any real value on a relationship. It’s funny how you say I’m backtracking but don’t mention what it is. And what I said in my last response has complete relevance to the discussion. And don’t strawman me by saying I said “marriage title is unnecessary” it clearly says in the question that I think it’s overrated.
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    3 months ago
    ico +1
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    I already exampled to you the value it has to the relationship (go back and read my comments), if you disagree how about actually attacking the points I made (e.g. my point on security).Oh my days you're actually disabled, that "strawman" is a direct quote from your comment to MustaKrakish. And no your comment wasn't relevant otherwise it would of linked to something in the comment you're replying to.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    The security example and other I said had no relevance to the relationship at all. Those are just a few legal benefits such as lower taxes and citizenship but from a pure romance point of view I don’t think the marriage title is relevant. That’s what I repeated multiple times but you continue to misunderstand me. Lots of people JUST get married for certain financial reasons and it ends up failing more often than not. And what comment are you saying you copied and pasted from me?
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    3 months ago
    ico
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    The comment I quoted: https://imgur.com/a/sJxx4j9 .How does the security example have no relevance to a relationship?, people are able to do more in their relationship (e.g. have kids and give up their careers to take care of them) because their future is secured in the case things don't work out (like I said if you disagree with this, make an actual counter-argument) And you basically admitted this was the case when you responded with "Well I was never arguing that marriage is completely useless" (even tho you did). I don't give a sh*t if people get married for financial reasons, that's not a counter to my point. Plus these financial benefits can actually help relationships, money is one of the biggest reasons relationships fall apart.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    What kind of “security” are we talking about here. That’s what I think is the problem. You’re not defining what you mean by security. Are you taking about tax benefits and other I mentioned earlier? If so please demonstrate how that impacts their relationship at all. You keep throwing the word security but not defining what you mean by it. “People are able to have kids and take care of them” You don’t think unmarried couples can do this? The only financial benefits marriage has is tax reduction. There’s many married couples that end up divorcing splitting up with their kids which is usually he father and this causes tension in the family. I said marriage was useless in a ROMANCE point of view not FINANCIAL.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    Everything you're asking I've already explained in my previous comments, you're acting as if only our last replies matter. Whatever, I'll give you a recap. I'm talking about the legal security marriage gives in the case that a person in one is required to give up their job aka livelihood in order to take care of their children, I've never said unmarried couples don't have kids and take care of them (why are you misquoting me as if there isn't a record of what I've said?). This impacts the relationship in that the individuals can focus more on their relationship and their families future instead of planning for the potential failure of the relationship. Okay, let's pretend like you weren't just caught claiming marriage was completely unnecessary, aside from that you actually also claimed that marriage was useless from a relationship AND romance point of view. I'm not gonna bother arguing from a romance point of view but I've just argued its value in a relationship point of view, so go ahead and counter that.
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    3 months ago
    ico
    Your argument from a relationship point of view is that if someone gives up their job they can take care of children. First of all just because you’re married doesn’t mean you’re obligated to have children. Second of all what does being married or not have to do with giving up your job to take care of your children? If one spouse gets fired from their job who’s supposed to provide income to support the family that puts a significant problem to the relationship married or not. I didn’t quote you saying unmarried couple don’t take care of children, rather I used that as an example to counter your comment saying that married couples have kids to grant them “security”. In conclusion the husband and wife title has no relevance to a couples relationship whatsoever. What does have relevance is their actual connection that they have together and you don’t need a piece of paper saying you’re official to prove that. Divorces happen all the time in fact vast majority of married couples become divorced within less than 10 years. That proves that from a relationship perspective it doesn’t change in fact I could easily argue it makes it worse
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    3 months ago
    ico
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    First of all, I never said that I clearly said "in the case" Second of all marriage has something to do with giving up your job to raise kids because the legal aspects of marriage and by extension divorce has protections for the spouse that gives up their livelihoods, if you weren't married and you break up, there's no financial saftey-net. "If one spouse gets fired from their job who’s supposed to provide income to support the family that puts a significant problem to the relationship married or not" wot in tardation? I'm not arguing the benefits of two vs one income, it was an example of why marriage matters. Also, I never said married couples have kids to grant them security, it's like you have no reading comprehension, how about you quote me directly instead of paraphrasing. I guess we're back to base one, I already said I'm not arguing from a romance point of view (which is what you keep screaming about) but marriage makes a tangible difference in a relationship because of the legal aspects and I've given you an example of that. p.s that's the dumbest reasoning ever, do you know how many un-marraiged relationships end as well? if you seriously want to argue down this lane I'm all for it, go ahead and easily argue how it makes it worse.