Let's say androids existed on Earth. They were invented by humans to provide us leisure where they would do all the hard work rather it's chores, construction, etc... However, they're being treated as 3/5ths of a person. The androids want equal rights just like humans, freedom to be whatever they want to be, and other important factors. They're advocating for their rights in a peaceful manner but, humans questioning if androids should be as equal as humans. So, would you be supportive/okay with androids co-existing in human society as equals? (By EvilinPink FemaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper StarDiamond 1 year ago)

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EvilinPink says Disclaimer: In this question, androids don't want to take over the earth, all they want is to be free from bondage. (This question was inspired by Detroit: Become Human. I love the concept of the game and the message it's trying to bring.)

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    9 months ago
    ico
    we really shouldn't have given them sentience
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    1 year ago
    ico
    guest from California, United States
    advanced technology is stupid
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    1 year ago
    ico
    no-money MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from West Virginia, United States
    English please!
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    1 year ago
    ico
    What do we consider as a person?
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    1 year ago
    ico
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    Something that is of the species Homo Sapiens and not a manmade machine. What's there to not understand about that? Are you really that much of a peace loving hippie retard that you are dumb enough to think that something that SEEMS like it can feel actually has the same emotions as a living creature?
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    1 year ago
    ico
    If we analyze how it operate and the electrical wiring, and it resemble that of a human brain, where's the line? After all, aren't we essentially machines?
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    1 year ago
    ico
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    Living cells ≠ circuit boards
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    1 year ago
    ico
    Let me ask you, why does the fact that humans are made of cell and AI aren't make a good argument against granting rights to AI?
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    1 year ago
    ico
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    Humans along with all the other species of organisms on earth EVOLVED. AI is MANMADE!
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    1 year ago
    ico
    Okay, that still doesn't give you a good argument. It's still a Non sequitur fallacy to assert because AI don't arise naturally that they somehow don't deserve rights.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    I think people should never let AI get to that point but if they do that probably means they can suffer, which nobody should be okay with.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    If they are suffering then it's still not real. It's a computer program that is highly complex and can SIMULATE human emotions. It would all be synthetic.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    They display every aspect of human consciousness, down to having preferences and therefore being able to suffer. You can't say their suffering is not real because at the end of the day the only difference between you and them is what you're made of.
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    1 year ago
    ico +1
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    They are mechanical. Which means that if a someone could get into the program that the robot is running on, they could alter it. This proving that it's not REAL suffering. If you've watched Futurama, maybe you saw the episode about robots having free will. They don't. They were lacking a part that was made for that purpose but never was installed so they could always be controlled. Everything they did/felt/experienced was due to their programming. As long as we don't install the "free will unit", their suffering would only ever be artificial. To install such a thing would be inhumane for this very reason. And that's assuming that it's even possible to create such a device.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    First of all that not how artificial intelligence works, what the AI feels and does isn't progammed (because that's the whole point of AI), it's takes input from their enviroment and makes an output according to it's preferences/goals (just like people). And the AI in this question have developed to the point they have completely different goals to humans, that's substantively what free-will is. What objective arguement do you have against that? all you can say is "it only looks like free-will and sufferring" but there's nothing in that since your suffering only looks like it to me. Even human free-will is something still debated. My point being artificial =/= not real. EXTRA SHT: If we get to the point where humans can be brainwashed would that also mean all human suffering isn't real?.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    MustaKrakish Gold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Pennsylvania, United States
    The difference is that machines have an off switch. LIVING BEINGS don't! Being brainwashed isn't the same thing as computer programming because we are all born with free will or at least the potential for free will. Robots and computers are programmed. The complexity of the coding used in it are highly advanced and can continue on in a certain way. Like you said, it learns from its surroundings. What it starts with is what we program it to be and with those complex codes it continues to collect data from its environment. If it develops what seems like human emotions then it's still all just computer codes simulating them.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    pIatinumstar22 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from South Australia, Australia
    What relevancy does an off button have here? ("A shotgun to the head can turn you off", and?). Your point was their suffering wasn't real because their minds can be altered, if that's the case as soon as a human mind is altered suffering and free will aren't real anymore. What it starts with is what we programmed into it the same way what a baby starts with is what nature genetically encoded into them, but for some reason instincts do not de-legitimize human free-will. The things you keep discribing directly apply to humans as well because they're just ARTIFICAL HUMANS, the difference being we're organic. You point out this difference as if it's an arguement in itself and then talk about how it only SEEMS like you're wrong.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    KindaPsycho MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper StarDiamondGold Crown from Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France
    They're not posing any threat and according to the game they seem more human than the human themselves. I'd rather hang out with androids than human I think
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    1 year ago
    ico
    If they're not posing any threat, why not? They'll probably eventually realize themselves that no matter how much they want it, they're machines and cannot be equal to humans.
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    1 year ago
    ico +1
    kirke MaleGold MedalSuper Star from North Carolina, United States
    They are tools.Created for our use.Not as peers.
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    1 year ago
    ico +1
    CatIover FemaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from New Jersey, United States
    The 3/5th compromise...
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    1 year ago
    ico +1
    We will eventually become so lazy that we literally can't do anything for ourselves anymore!
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    1 year ago
    ico
    CrazyxHorse1 MaleGold MedalGold TrophySuper Star from Connecticut, United States
    Because we're letting them do all the hard work while we are sitting around doing nothing.
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    1 year ago
    ico +1
    No, and stop programming them to want equal rights. That was a dumb thing to add in the first place.
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    1 year ago
    ico
    agreed
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    1 year ago
    ico
    Might be terrible to say out loud, but I like the idea of having ownership over them (which I wouldn’t advocate to begin with, but they’re aren’t really humans)